while back, I was in a debate with an atheist about evolution vs. creation on YouTube. Back in the day when you could only use 500 characters per comment, which is really hard to do for someone like me, the idea that the Bible was based on false scientific information was repeatedly thrown into the ring. Nothing new there, really. But one subject in particular, that was presented in the typical snide and demeaning atheistic fashion, was his fact that the Bible claimed that the earth was flat! How ridiculous, right? Well, as far as I was concerned, it was a lame attempt at discrediting the word of God, and so, at that time, I didn't see this as a fact at all. But ..... after many years of reading, learning, and thinking, things are starting to change in my mind. I have been brought to a point where I can no longer ignore, or deny the obvious, which is that the atheist was right about one thing: The Bible IS a flat earth book!
What's My Point?
God's Word Over Man's
- has ends, and four corners (not possible on a sphere)
- is drawn as a circle like a plate, or even a yurt-like semi-circle, not round like a ball
- is a flat non-moving plain
- is set on pillars (like a cake??)
- rests upon the great deep
- and that the sun, moon, and stars move over the earth within the expanse of heaven above.
"Thou whom I have taken from the ends of the earth, and called thee from the chief men thereof, and said unto thee, Thou art my servant; I have chosen thee, and not cast thee away." Isaiah 41:9
"And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth."
Isaiah 11:12 (KJV)
"He has inscribed a circle on the face of the waters at the boundary between light and darkness." Job 26:10 (ESV)
"It is He who sits above the circle of the earth,.." Isaiah 40:22
"Tremble before Him, all the earth.
The world also is firmly established,
It shall not be moved." 1 Chronicles 16:30
"He raises the poor from the dust and lifts the beggar from the ash heap, to set them among princes and make them inherit the throne of glory. “For the pillars of the earth are Yahovah’s, and He has set the world upon them." 2 Samuel 22:16
"Can you direct the movement of the stars--binding the cluster of the Pleiades or loosening the cords of Orion? Can you direct the sequence of the seasons or guide the Bear with her cubs across the heavens? Do you know the laws of the universe? Can you use them to regulate the earth?" Job 38:31-33 (NLT)
Observation vs. Suggestion
"The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature--have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse."
Romans 1:18-20 (NIV)
Wait. Get a picture of that in your mind, because this is what we are told to believe, according to the "experts," we aren't only spinning at 1000 mph at the equator, we are also spinning around the sun at 60,000 mph, and following the sun's journey around the Milkyway at 100,000 mph! Dear reader, we would not be able to hold down our lunch, but only recently have we been able to get a camera to produce a good photo while in motion, but somehow we get crystal clear star and earth shots. But what if you moved your camera around while you were trying to take an action shot? The photograph will reveal a blur! There are physical limits and impossibilities even in this modern high-tech world. Yet all of these physical motion problems are supposedly overcome by the mystical properties of -- gravity? It's like the mystical theology of the make believe power called: "The Force"!
Let us consider this: even though a fighter pilot is in his plane going mach 2 in our atmos-phere, he surely feels the movement of his plane as it hurls through the air at 1500 mph. He is going 500 mph faster than the earth at the equator. And he needs to wear a special pressure suit with oxygen mask just to remain conscious during those high speed, high altitude extreme G-force maneuvers. Knowing this, what exactly keeps all 7 billion of us conscious and breathing during our 1000 mph/60,000 mph/ 100,000 mph journey around the vacuum of space that we don't even feel? Gravity? The weakest and most unexplained force known to science? Ummmm, most likely not. What do you feel? I don't know about you, but I don't feel a thing. That means we are not moving 1 mph, much less 100,000 mph! Trust me when I say that even on a huge ship, you still feel the waves and "gravity" is in full force. Some one is lying. Either the scientists behind the green curtain, or your perfectly good senses. I'm going to go with the phony baloney scientists being the liars here.